A highly recommended discussion between Lex Fridman and Andrew Bustamante about the CIA, intelligence services and international relations. Also discussed is how the CIA operates, current international relations, the war in the Ukraine and human behavior.

Lex Fridman, if you don’t know anything about him, is a computer programmer and expert in the field of Artificial Intelligence. He hosts a very interesting podcast and has had a number of super interesting guests. Even if you have heard some of his more popular guest speak in different venues, Fridman’s interview style and the angles by which he come at people make listening to some of these interviews worth a second glance.