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Was Frank Sloup Fired?

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A few months back I posted Friday’s With ‘Fired’ Frank after a number of my former colleague at Scottsdale and a couple of guys I knew at the Maricopa County’s Sheriff’s Office forwarded me the Pinal County Sheriff’s Office “Friday’s With Frank” YouTube page.  Along with the forwards, they were confused about how a former police officer they worked with, who had a checkered past and had left both agencies after Internal Affairs investigations would be made the social media face of a third organization in the state.  Moreso, they wondered how he could even be hired by a third agency.  I was a bit taken aback too, thus I posted my feeling about it in April 2023. 

For whatever reason, nobody cared about the post until the past 60 days when it blew up, having recorded nearly 10,000 unique page over the past two months with over 5,000 in the past 28.  Along with the views came several negative comments about what I wrote.  The main complaint was my use of my nickname for him, “Fired” Frank.  Several pointed out my “slander” by referring to him as having been fired from both Scottsdale PD and MSCO.  Here’s what I wrote, “Frank Sloup was “fired”, errrrrrr “separated”, errrrrrrrr “decided to resign”, from not one, but two different law enforcement agencies in Arizona for integrity issues before being hired and featured by Pinal County.”  The reason those terms are in quotes is because you can’t find information about exactly how, why or under what circumstances he was separated from those agencies without filing FIO Requests to both Scottsdale and the county, which I don’t care enough to do. 

But let’s discuss why that information is so hard to come by.  It’s by design.  You see, there is this dirty little secret in law enforcement, one which I saw time and time again, and have never agreed with.  When a cop gets caught violating policy, violating someone’s civil rights or having trouble with telling the truth, they are usually present with a carrot and stick option.  They are told that they can (a) resign in lieu of termination or (b) use their due process rights and fight the termination.  Option A comes with the articulated understanding that if they leave without fighting, the agency will not attempt to have their AZPOST Certification revoked or suspended, thus allowing them to seek employment at another police agency within the state.  With Option B, they are threatened with the agency attempting to have their certification revoked or suspended, thus not being able to work as a peace officer in the State of Arizona.  In my experience 95% of those given the choice leave without fighting.  Especially those hoping to continue their careers in LE.  It was such a ubiquitous practice in Scottsdale that a former Scottsdale LT coined a term for it.  It was then forever referred to as “Passing the Lemons”. 

I don’t know the ultimate type of separation Frank Sloup had with Scottsdale PD.  But here is what I can tell you based on an AZPOST Audit History that anyone can obtain.  He was hired by Scottsdale sometime between January 1, 2001 and March 23, 2001.  He obtained his AZPOST certification July 20, 2001 after graduating from the academy.  The records then show a “Separation Date” from Scottsdale of May 24, 2002 with “Misconduct – Yes”.  Scottsdale shortly submitted a Certification Review to AZPOST to have his certification Revoked, Case 02-54, which is also public record but it appears the actual report from 2002 is no longer available.  AZPOST chose to not revoke his certification, but the reason is not noted.  Scottsdale HR records only show Sloup as “Separated” from the city, not “Resigned”, “Terminated” or “Retired”.    

Logic dictates that if your employer separates your employment after an internal investigation for misconduct and then attempts to have your professional certification revoked or suspended, it was not a mutual parting of ways. 

He would then go on to be hired by the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office in 2004.  In August of 2017 AZPOST records show he was again “Separated” from the agency with a Separation Type noted as “Misconduct – Yes (Level 2)”.  MCSO would also submit a review of his certification which was taken up by AZPOST in December 2017, Case #17-148, and again the Board voted not to suspend his certification due to “Agency Discretion”.  In other words his former agency had already taken action against Sloup that they found adequate; reminding everybody he was already “separated” from MSCO by this time. 

His case summary was still obtainable.  To summarize from the AZPOST case file, he pulled a DUI one night.  He failed to complete his report that night per MCSO policy regarding felony charging.  When it was brought to his attention that the date of the report was the following day, he altered the date on the report to the previous day using White Out after it was already submitted.  A clerk noted the alteration and he then gave conflicting stories when asked about it.  The matter was moved to IA for further investigation.  MSCO would find the allegation of giving misleading statements and altering a government record sustained.  The case notes do say that he resigned from MSCO prior to receiving his discipline. 

So again, he was alleged to be involved in misconduct that resulted in an integrity violation and altering a government document.  His agency attempted to revoke or suspend his certification and ultimately separated him from the organization.  It would be this incident that would also land him on the Brady List effective October 2017.  I’ll let the logical people reading this decide once again, who thinks this was a mutual parting of ways?

Still need more convincing that Sloup, if technically not terminated, was shown the door from two agencies?  The Brady Standard came into place around 1999, a year after I was hired.  There are currently 16 Scottsdale officers on the Brady List, I know all of them.  I know all of the stories that got them there.  All of them were terminated or resigned in lieu of termination.  None of them were allowed to keep their jobs. 

Since 1998, when I started, Scottsdale submitted 51 officers for reviews of their AZPOST certification.  Almost all were also on the Brady List.  37 of the 51 either had their certification suspended, revoked or voluntarily relinquished it.  Five did not have it revoked as a result of their agency’s action, which was termination or voluntary separation.  AZPOST only voted for 10 not to have their certifications removed based on the merits of the allegation, of which Sloup is one.  I only see four names that were allowed to continue to work for a few weeks until they could “retire” after accruing 20+ years. 

Based on all this, for the logical people out there, would you believe that Frank Sloup, being both on the Brady List and having had his certification sent for review by the two agencies that he was separated from, leave those agencies because he was looking for greener pastures?  Or is it more logical to believe that he was shown the door?

In my world, if you are told to quit or be fired, you are being fired, period.  It may makes people feel better if they can lie to others and say they quit, which I guess is technically correct, but a perversion of the truth. 

It’s actually much worse for law enforcement, when police officers can be separated from one or more agencies, be allowed to keep their certifications after sustained allegations of misconduct, and go on to work as a police officer elsewhere.  But these are the times we are living in.   

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  1. “The reason those terms are in quotes is because you can’t find information about exactly how, why or under what circumstances he was separated from those agencies without filing FIO Requests to both Scottsdale and the county, which I don’t care enough to do.”

    I can’t take you seriously or bother to read the rest of your diatribe and libel after that last statement. Its not that you can’t, it’s that you *can’t be bothered* to do the bare minimum to back up what you say while you drag this guy through the mud.

  2. I am having a hard time with you using the word “integrity” in your post as if you have any basis to judge it.

    While I agree with most of your post, you immediately lost me on the morals part when you were childish with the “fired, errr, separated”

    It just seems like something a 14 year old would write. While I appreciate you drawing attention to the issue, a little more maturity behind your posts would go a long way.

  3. I have watched several of Sheriff Deputy Frank Sloups videos. (Fridays With Frank). I’ll have to say Franks way of approaching and dealing with drivers/citizens is different from most police videos I have watched. That being said I very much like his attitude and friendly manner in his speaking to the many drivers he is in contact with! He throws humor into his work as I’m sure he and others deal with many frustrations on this law enforcement career. I think he does a GREAT job, and I’am someone who has several relatives in Law Enforcement and in my opinion Frank is an asset to his job!!

  4. I read some of these comments and shake my head – this is not a guy you want to defend. He forms an initial opinion, and then sticks with it nomatter where the actual evidence takes him. If a suspect’s rights get in the way of his pre-conclusions, oh well. I know, because I am one of those people.

    I can’t believe that police organizations keep hiring this man, let alone celebrate him as some sort of law enforcement hero who deserves video productions.

  5. Law enforcement is supposed to be without reproach, not above the law. The attitude and sense of entitlement of this Frank Sloup is not consistent with professional law enforcement. The face that he has been fired multiple times for cause, sued multiple times, but still kept his Post certification is a terrible reflection on the remainder of LEO’s. This ass isnt qualified to be a crossing guard and has serious mental issues. He should not be allowed to possess firearms.

    • So in over 20 years of law enforcement he spilled on his laptop twice and changed the date on a report once and from that you conclude that he isn’t qualified to be a crossing guard or possess firearms? Maybe you need to look in a mirror sir.

      Try watching all his videos where he is always respectful of those who respect him. The a**hats that try to in particular pull the sovcit crap get shut down instantly as they should. You probably think that the cops that let some guy with no license, no registration, no insurance go time and time and time again, so they can crash into you or me and we’re paying for it, are the good cops? They are fools and suckers.

      But I guess the thing you can’t handle is a cop that is perfectly respectful until some violator tries to rule the situation and be let go. NOPE. That doesn’t help good decent law abiding citizens like me.

  6. I read the story in 2017 about Frank’s arrest report correction. He had a second job at Chase Field on Saturday night. On Sunday he had to wait for evidence to arrive from Colorado about his suspect. When he went in the finish the report, he found that a clerk had filled in the date. Frank used White-Out to correct it. Hardly the crime of the century but still against MCSO policy. He resigned and administration declined to file charges.

  7. So, in a previous job, Frank failed to complete a felony report on the day of the crime, and the next day completed the report, but dated it as though properly completed the previous day. While it was against policy, I do believe in forgiveness & second chances. I can’t comment on the other unspecified disciplinary action, but I like Franks approach with the public… Funny but respectful, clear communicator, no B.S.

  8. I did not work in law enforcement but I have been in the intelligence world for almost 20 years now. Everyone makes mistakes in life. Everyone is dishonest at some point. Some people about trivial things and others about something major. I guarantee if I started digging in your life I could find something. I’ve done that type of digging for many years. I have yet to have someone that I could not dig up dirt on.

    Making this post about Frank is crap. He is arrogant and sometimes condescending. So what! Not every cop is perfect. But Frank gives many many breaks. And he has a heart. And he doesn’t set out each day to mess with people for no reason which is a trend in Scottsdale. Some of the worst officers in the state in Scottsdale.

    Be very careful casting stones because you yourself are not without sin.


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